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Colpermin? Stress?
Question:
I have heard that enteric peppermint capsules might help with bloating. Has anyone here tried them? I tried to find an internet site that might supply them but had no luck. One document stated that they are not available in the US. I’m curious why since I doubt peppermint oil could be considered anything other than a dietary supplement. Anyone know of a supplier of these or a comparable product? One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism? Thanks! Geoff ghu…@ukans.edu
Response:
A company called Enzymatic Therapy, located in Wisconsin, sells "Peppermint Plus" which is enteric coated peppermint. It’s available in most health food stores in the U.S. . Their website is http://www.enzy.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Geoff Husic wrote: > I have heard that enteric peppermint capsules might help with bloating. > Has anyone here tried them? I tried to find an internet site that might > supply them but had no luck. One document stated that they are not > available in the US. I’m curious why since I doubt peppermint oil could > be considered anything other than a dietary supplement. Anyone know of a > supplier of these or a comparable product? > One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" > precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism? > Thanks! > Geoff > ghu…@ukans.edu
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Geoff Husic wrote: > I have heard that enteric peppermint capsules might help with bloating. > Has anyone here tried them? I tried to find an internet site that might > supply them but had no luck. One document stated that they are not > available in the US. I’m curious why since I doubt peppermint oil could > be considered anything other than a dietary supplement. Anyone know of a > supplier of these or a comparable product? > One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" > precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism?
I found Colpermin gave my terrible ‘heartburn’ even when following the instructions to the letter. Whilst Stress ‘brings on’ IBS symptoms, i don’t believe it’s what starts it initially. IMHO. Cheers, Jon.
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Jon Harris <tall…@mistral.co.uk> wrote: >Geoff Husic wrote: >> One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" >> precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism? >Whilst Stress ‘brings on’ IBS symptoms, i don’t believe it’s what starts >it initially. IMHO.
I agree that stress does not "cause" IBS. I believe that there is always some unknown organic mechanism. In my case, my doctors were sure that I had IBS, even though it came on suddenly and I am under no great amount of stress. After 3 months of this, I got sick of the diarrhea (and feeling like I always needed to run to the bathroom) and got online and researched it to death and diagnosed myself with Clostridium difficile as I had just taken antibiotics before I got "IBS" (the doctors weren’t interested in the fact that I’d taken the antibiotics). I went in and asked to be tested for it. The results came back positive and I was treated for it, and I now feel 85-90% of normal every day instead of 50% like before. Clostridium does damage your colon and the flora, so I expect it’ll be a while before I feel 100%, but it’s great to know that what I have is fixable. If I hadn’t done the research, I would have had this for years. My doctors had dignosed me, handed me Lomatil, suggested I see a psychiatrist (because I was depressed about feeling bad all the time) and sent me home for the duration. But, I will say that having this bacteria did cause me stress, which in turn made my symptoms much worse when I had to be away from a bathroom or traveling. That’s one of the reasons that the doc thought it "must" be IBS. Wrong. The disease caused the stress, not the other way around. charlotte sometimes
Response:
I found enteric coated peppermint oil at Healthway Health Food Stores. Look in your yellow pages under Health Food Stores. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Geoff Husic wrote: > I have heard that enteric peppermint capsules might help with bloating. > Has anyone here tried them? I tried to find an internet site that might > supply them but had no luck. One document stated that they are not > available in the US. I’m curious why since I doubt peppermint oil could > be considered anything other than a dietary supplement. Anyone know of a > supplier of these or a comparable product? > One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" > precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism? > Thanks! > Geoff > ghu…@ukans.edu
Response:
Great news Charlotte. I love hearing stories like this. I’m glad to see you empowered yourself instead of just rolling over and playing dead like doctors would like us to do. What type of test was performed to identify the Clostridium and how was it treated? Thanks for the post, john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -charlotte sometimes wrote: > Jon Harris <tall…@mistral.co.uk> wrote: > >Geoff Husic wrote: > >> One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" > >> precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism? > >Whilst Stress ‘brings on’ IBS symptoms, i don’t believe it’s what starts > >it initially. IMHO. > I agree that stress does not "cause" IBS. I believe that there is > always some unknown organic mechanism. In my case, my doctors were > sure that I had IBS, even though it came on suddenly and I am under no > great amount of stress. After 3 months of this, I got sick of the > diarrhea (and feeling like I always needed to run to the bathroom) and > got online and researched it to death and diagnosed myself with > Clostridium difficile as I had just taken antibiotics before I got > "IBS" (the doctors weren’t interested in the fact that I’d taken the > antibiotics). I went in and asked to be tested for it. The results > came back positive and I was treated for it, and I now feel 85-90% of > normal every day instead of 50% like before. Clostridium does damage > your colon and the flora, so I expect it’ll be a while before I feel > 100%, but it’s great to know that what I have is fixable. If I hadn’t > done the research, I would have had this for years. My doctors had > dignosed me, handed me Lomatil, suggested I see a psychiatrist > (because I was depressed about feeling bad all the time) and sent me > home for the duration. > But, I will say that having this bacteria did cause me stress, which > in turn made my symptoms much worse when I had to be away from a > bathroom or traveling. That’s one of the reasons that the doc thought > it "must" be IBS. Wrong. The disease caused the stress, not the other > way around. > charlotte sometimes
Response:
In article <359D8837.7339E…@ukans.edu>, Geoff Husic <" ghusic"@ukans.edu> writes: >One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" >precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism?
Only to the Doctors who think IBS is a mental problem. The study I was in presented the consensus opinion that something is wrong with the nerves in the gut such that either motility was screwed up, or the pain perception between the gut and the brain is screwed up. ********************************************************* Blessed is he who has learned to laugh at himself, for he shall never ceased to be entertained —John Powell kmot…@aol.com
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -KMottus wrote: > In article <359D8837.7339E…@ukans.edu>, Geoff Husic <" ghusic"@ukans.edu> > writes: > >One more question. Does it seem to be the concensus that stress is "THE" > >precipitating factor rather than some yet unknown organic mechanism? > Only to the Doctors who think IBS is a mental problem. > The study I was in presented the consensus opinion that > something is wrong with the nerves in the gut such that > either motility was screwed up, or the pain perception > between the gut and the brain is screwed up. > ********************************************************* > Blessed is he who has learned to laugh at himself, > for he shall never ceased to be entertained > —John Powell > kmot…@aol.com
Just adding one point: in many of us it is probably both an abnormal motility and abnormal pain perception. Those of us with Fibromyalgia Syndrome are thought to lack sufficient amounts of certain neurotransmitting compounds, like Serotonin, that regulate smooth muscle in the gut and elsewhere, and are also thought to have too much of a compound called "Substance P," a major carrier of pain signals to the brain. I believe the significant progress I have made, from a very severe case of IBS, has convinced me that these problems are indeed linked to my symptoms and are "causes" of my symptoms. I wish I could more easily feel better, but I will have to continue my medication, exercise, a very restricted diet I came up with to avoid sensitivities to many foods and lots of sleep. I haven’t been able to fit all of this stuff in to a 24-hour day, but I am trying. There is much Fibromyalgia info on the Web, for your further investigation.